[ That's definitely a hit, as he wasn't expecting the action to be a feint. He also wasn't expecting to be grabbed, as it's a move he equates to someone like Red Magnus and not Mikazuki. All the swordmasters he's fought before have been nimble dodgey types, and this is more a move of a wrestler or fighter. Killia's also not terribly heavy either, and there's momentum coming into play too.
So they totally do hit the ground, though he does try to use his wings out of instinct, even though it doesn't do anything.]
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So they totally do hit the ground, though he does try to use his wings out of instinct, even though it doesn't do anything.]
...does this mean we both lose?