[ Elda... smiles at that. She's applying the coat still, but ]

I agree Gangrel's hopeless, even if there's some amusement to be found with such a lost man, but I disagree on Guzma. Men grow by being rough in their youth. Given another decade, I think he could end up a splendid man.

[ Of course she's talking an Adult so that's her operating on Vampire Time, but. ]